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Episode 29 - The Secret Waiting in Seattle
This one is personal. In this episode of Unfiltered Us, Susie shares the emotional journey of traveling with her sisters to Seattle to meet a sister they never knew existed. From nervous anticipation to heartfelt conversations, we open up about what it feels like to discover new family, build connections, and embrace the unexpected twists of life.
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You're listening to unfiltered us, where we keep it real and unscripted. I'm your host, Suzy, along with my husband, Miguel. Ready to dive in? Let's get started. Okay. Welcome, everybody. This is Take Three on this new episode. We had some technical issues with our microphone. So as soon as we're done recording, we're going to upload it. So. Yes. Welcome my love. How are you feeling? Great. Thank you. You're looking beautiful as always. Oh, thank you so much. Uh. You're welcome. So last week, we didn't get a chance to do a recording, a podcast or an episode because you had gone to Seattle and there's a reason why you went to Seattle. And so we're going to talk about that today. Yes we are. All right. So tell us, why did you and your sisters go to Seattle last week? Well, this is going to be interesting for about 95% of the people that know us personally. Okay. Because we actually went over there to. Visit a sister. Half sister. A daughter from my dad that we have never met. So you're saying your dad has another daughter besides you? Cindy or Kim? Yes. Not Henry. Henry's not a doctor. Okay. Okay, okay. So actually, Henry's not even his son. Yeah, I know a lot of people know that, but Henry's my half brother, so. Right. So Henry's from your mom? Yeah. Henry's just. My mom's. Right. So. Okay, so a sister that you guys have your dad's daughter and you guys have never met her? No. Okay. So how. How does your dad have another daughter? So how how is how is that all about? So before anyone thinks that my dad is a cheater because he's not. He actually, um. Actually, we don't really know the story, to be honest. Like, there's a couple versions, there's a couple versions of the story, and and the story is pretty much that. Well, he when he lived in Mexico, he had this girl, um, girlfriend and that he before he came to the States, he left her pregnant. And the reason why he left to the States was several, like the stories we've heard is because the family wasn't too happy that he got her pregnant and was really upset, and Tim was looking for him. Granted, we are from Sinaloa, so that sounds very plausible. Um, or he that he left to the States to make a better life for them, and he was supposed to go back for them. Wow. So so I don't know the story as far as how. What happened there? Like, why wasn't she in my dad's life? So according to him, this is in his own words that he told me the story. It's that he left Mexico for that reason. Number one, that he had gotten this lady pregnant and the family wasn't very happy. And he had to leave town. He had to leave because they were looking for him. And, you know, this is 51, 52 years ago. So he feared, you know, for his life. And so he took off. Um, but he never, uh, was involved in the your sister's life, right? No, never. In fact, my dad and her don't even know each other person like, personally, they've never met. Never met? Um, so all they really know of each other is through pictures of what they even look like. Right. And so that's that's how he ended up. So then here, once he got here to the States, he met my mom. And then that's how I came. And my sisters came about. Right. So how old were you when you found out you had a sisters from your dad's side? I mean, obviously, you know, when you were born. Well, Henry was already in the picture because he's older than you. Yeah. So he was, um, you know, your brother from the very beginning? Yeah. So when did you find out that your dad had a daughter in another country? Well, I was discussing this with my sisters, and I know you've asked us, and we actually do not remember how we found out about her. And I don't know what's if. It's because maybe we were really young and it was just wasn't something that stuck in our minds. But it wasn't. It wasn't it didn't end up being a core memory. So it's interesting because we actually do not. None of us remember how we found out. Out. I found out about her. I do remember when, uh, my parents purchased their first home. Um, which I was probably in, like the third grade. The fourth grade time frame was when they purchased that house. And I remember I was in their bedroom, and I found a letter that was written by her, and it had a picture of her in the letter. And I remember looking at it and the letter was, uh, addressed in my address to your dad. Okay. Okay. And I remember looking at it and and again, I don't remember if it was because I already knew her that I wasn't surprised by the letter, or if that's the moment I ended up finding out about her. So I it again. It's that whole part of her, like, come like us. Knowing about her is very hazy, I don't remember. So you found the letter, but by the time you found the letter, you already knew she existed. That's what I think. Okay. And I. Or if I don't know if that was the moment I actually found out about her. Okay, so you you you don't remember that feeling of whether you knew or you were just finding out? Right. I don't remember that feeling. And I said you were old. So my parents lived in that house from the time I was, I want to say third, fourth grade all the way until, like, I was in seventh grade. So it had to be somewhere between that time frame. How old are you at that time? So third, fourth grade, you're probably about nine until seventh grade, which is probably about well, let's say at first when you were ten, 9 to 13 years old, I found out later. Wow. That's crazy. So I at that time, there was zero contact between your dad and his older daughter then, right? As far as I know. Okay. I can't tell you because I don't ever remember him talking to her, but, um, it could have been something he was doing and didn't want us involved. There's a lot of things, a lot of factors, you know, so I can't tell you if he was or wasn't. But it feels like he he wasn't because she, she I think she would felt closer to us. Right. And which would go into, you know, I you know, she would have felt more like a sister if that was the case. Right now, she just feels like a little bit of a stranger. Right. So that's crazy. So the, the, the whole story is just crazy because obviously he knew about her since he left Mexico but never went back. Obviously, you know, he didn't go back to Mexico for a while, right? While he was getting his papers all fixed and all that stuff. Yeah. But he never really after went back or had any contact. Well, the thing is that we once they did were my parents were legal, we would go to Mexico all the time and to Sinaloa. So that's even more interesting to me because I think she had to be there or at least close by, you know. Uh, and but I never met her. Wow. Okay. So when when did you find out or how did you even get in contact with her? Um, in regards to now you guys have. Being able to go to Seattle to meet her. How did you first, like, contact her? How did how did that go about? So about 12, 11 years ago, I, uh, Kim came to me and Cindy and said that she had found a picture. Kim is your sister? Yeah. Kim is my sister. That, um, that she had found a picture in my dad's wallet of her. Of my half sister, with her husband, and at the time, her two kids. And she said we should try to find her. And I don't know if Kim came to us for that, because my dad was maybe interested in finding out about her. And that's why Kim thought, like, let's find her. So I did. I went on, you know, did my investigative FBI work, and I thought she I thought for sure she lived in Mexico. Right. I just I didn't think that she would be in the States. So I thought, okay, everybody in Mexico uses Facebook, right? And if I. And her name was on the back of the, of the picture, so I, I typed in her name and I found her because we actually have a lot of. Same friends. You know, as they say, because my aunts follow her. Your your your aunts on. My dad's on your dad's side. The ones that lived in Mexico. Yeah, the ones that live in Mexico. So I was like, okay, this has to be her because it was the same name as in the back of the picture. Plus, on her Facebook was the picture that my dad had in his wallet. So wow. It made complete sense. And so what I did is that I reached out to her. I sent her a message. Uh, I typed it up in Spanish, of course, and I didn't hear back from her, and I don't remember. I wish I could remember word for word, but it was something like, I think you're our sister. You know, like we're reaching out. We want to get to know you type of deal. And I didn't get a response for a while. I want to say weeks. And I thought, and my sisters would always follow up with me like, hey, did she reach out to you? But she hadn't. And I thought, it's just because she doesn't want to have a relationship with us. And which is understandable. Uh, I'm not going to force it, but at least I attempted to be. At least I attempted to read, you know, like, get to know her. Let's go back for a second. So you said that when you found her. In on Facebook write that she had common friends. And this friends was your family? Yes. So the whole time, at the same time that you and your sisters grew up here with your dad has zero communication with your other sister. She had your older sister, Myra had, in a sense, a relationship. And she kind of even grew up with some of your family members in Mexico. Yes. So I found that out just recently on this Seattle trip. I didn't I knew that they were friends on Facebook, but I didn't think they had the closest relationship, as I later found out that they they did. Right. Uh, and which I find it interesting because I get along with my dad's side of the family way more than I do with my mom's side. Like, as far as my aunts go, I love my aunts on my dad's side of the family, and we talk a lot, especially one of them, which is my Tia Martha. She and I are very close. And they never once. They never once watched her. No. Never, ever brought her up. I don't know, I didn't know anything about her. Like they never said. Hey, we're really close with her. You should think about reaching out like nothing. Nothing. Um, they actually kind of pretended like I didn't know. They weren't sure if I knew about her, and so I. I think they just never thought to say anything because they didn't want to be the ones, obviously, to burst that bubble. Right? It's obviously my dad's responsibility. And if my dad decides not to say anything, they're not going to say anything, right? They figure, hey, that's my brother's business. I'm not going to, you know, in case in case you girls didn't know, they didn't want to, like, chime in and right, ruin it and maybe, you know, expose something that, you know, but like, little do they know that you guys didn't know, but they didn't know her. Yes. And okay. So then go ahead. We were on Facebook. Yeah. So then, um, she finally did reach out weeks later and she said to me, like, I'm so sorry. I would have responded sooner. She was. But you kind of went into like these messages of, since we're not friends, like their request, like just, yeah, like request like in another. And I didn't know what it was there. And when I started to read your message, I realized that you're my, you know, like my sister. And, uh, so then we started talking. So this was probably 11 or 12 years ago. And the only reason I remember that is because at the time she only had two kids. And then I remember her announcing that she was pregnant. And I remember seeing it on Facebook, like her baby shower and stuff like that. And that little girl we ended up meeting recently in Seattle and she's now 11. Wow. So that's how I know how long ago, because I remember her getting being pregnant at the time that I reached out to her. So when you found her on Facebook, this is when you figured out that she actually lived in the States and not in Mexico? Yes, that she actually lived in Washington state. Um, about 30 minutes from Seattle. She doesn't live in Seattle. She lives in, like a little city away from Seattle. And, um, we, me and her have been the ones in contact. Kim and Cindy never, like, never reached out. They if if we would send a gift like for because we started sending gifts for Christmas and stuff like that, I would make it known that it was from the three of us, right? Not just me, even though I'm the one just talking to her. So in a sense, I'm the one that built the relationship with her and not my sisters. Right? Let me ask you a question. I have a question. So. When you find her on Facebook, you reach out. She reaches back. Right? Obviously now you guys have somewhat of a communication going, right? Did you tell your dad? Yes, I told my dad I found her and I told my dad that I reached out and my dad thought it was a great thing. Like he never told me. Don't do that. Stop that. Nothing. Nothing. Okay. Uh, he loved the fact that we reached out to her and that we're building that relationship with her. Keep in mind that, um. Did your mom find out? My mom did find out that you reached out. That I reached out. How did that go? And she actually didn't say anything to me personally. I think she might have asked me, like, did you find your dad's daughter? You know, type of deal? And I said, yes, but she kind of cut it there, and I don't know how she found out, but she I know she like I really upset at like my dad, which she always said, if she's upset that anyone is gonna be at my dad, I sit out on her, she takes it out on my dad. So she got really upset with my dad and was like, like pretty much saying, like, tell them to stop, but I wasn't gonna listen. There's no reason for me to listen, right? So. Okay, so now you develop a relationship with her on Facebook? Yes. How did that. Because that was 11 years ago. Yeah. So I got to know her. I got to know her middle child. Uh, her name's Carly. She, uh, she's the one that I would talk to, too. So it's a it was a relationship, really, that I grew with my sister and my niece, and, uh, it wasn't anything like where we would text talk every day or anything like that. It was a here and there type of deal, but I. I mean, I knew that, um, she gave birth to another little girl and, um, that she. And then she when she started to go through the paperwork of becoming a legal. Um, I knew that because her son was born in the States. So her son was the one. Her son is the oldest. Then it goes the middle child, Carly, and then the youngest and her oldest, her son. He was the one that put in the papers to make her legal. So I knew all of that. And then about a year and a half ago, she got diagnosed with cancer. Breast cancer. And then I retold my sister's day. Our sister has breast cancer like stage three. So she's going through chemo and radiation, and she's been doing some surgeries. And that's when me and my sisters decided that once she feels better and she's done with all her therapy, that we should go visit her. So this was about a year and a half ago, and then, um, I had been following up with her, like, how is she feeling? Stuff like that. And about a month ago, she told me that she was done with her cancer. There was no more. She was done with the the chemo, the radiation. She only had one last surgery, which is to take the port out, but that now she's better. And then she would love to visit, you know that she she likes she would like the company. So did you tell her, hey, once you get better, we'll go. We'll go visit. Okay? I did about a year ago. I remembered about a year. And about a year ago I told her like, hey, when you start to feel better and. And you're not going through all of this, like, let us know and we'll go. That was motivation for her to feel better and get better. I don't. I mean, I don't know, could be right. I mean, you never know. Right. Because, you know, some people, they go through, you know, uh, cancer and they, you know, some people just give up, right? But some people do have the will to live for something. I don't know, I just thought maybe, you know, that she had a reason other than living for her family to, you know, overcome this and get better. I mean, I can't say I didn't really ask her that. So I told my sisters and then we I told them, like, this is this month, September would be the perfect time to go because come October, maybe October, November, December, it starts to snow as it gets really cold. Obviously in Washington state, I know it snows and all that, so I, I didn't I didn't want to like go during snowing season. And this was probably like the perfect weather wise. And I said we need to do it now. Like if we're doing it, we need to do this now. So we planned the whole trip in like less than two weeks. And, um, we decided to go. The three of us to go visit her. Wow. What did she say when you told her we're coming? Oh, she was super excited. She was a little sad that, uh, we wouldn't be able to meet the middle child. Because that day, she was. Well, she's in college, and she's going through. She's actually going through, um, I don't want to say a nursing program because it's not a nursing program. She's at a medical school, right? Like a medical school. And so that day that we were going, she was like intro and like clinical trials type of deal, like all day. And she wouldn't be home until like 8:00 at night. And so we weren't going to be able to meet her, which kind of sucks because that's the one that I built the relationship as well. Right. So I would have really loved to have met her. Oh, that just means another trip. Yeah. Um, where? I told her, like, she could send her down, that I would take care of her down here. Like she could send her to Vegas because she's 24. So she's legal. She's legal drinking age and gambling age here. Oh my God. And so then, uh, she was super excited. She asked when we finally got there, which is funny. I'm going to just say this part. She thought that we were going for something else. She she thought that that we were going to go like watch a baseball game or something. And since we're already there, it just happened. We're going to go and visit her. Got it. Um, but I told her, no, that's not the case. Like you were our main goal. Like we didn't have anything else. Yeah, the trip purposely was for that. The. Yes. And she she didn't know that. She thought, oh, they're going they're coming to like a game or something. Right. And yeah. How was the emotions of you and your sisters before you got there? I mean, so even before we got there, even, like, getting on the plane or the days going up to the trip, I know I was incredibly nervous, and not only because I'm meeting her, because I get nervous in general when I'm going to somewhere I've never been, and especially have to drive somewhere I've never been. Since she lives outside of Seattle, we were flying into Seattle and then renting a car to drive 30 minutes out to go see her. Right. So a lot of that was in my mind. I'm like, here I am meeting a new sister. Here I am going to a place I've never been here. I am driving in a place I've never met because you never know what to expect. Right. Yeah. And so it was just a lot on me and I was like, oh my gosh, do I really want to do this? Like, what if she doesn't like us? What if what if, uh, you know, she starts to badmouth my dad, which is one thing that me and my sisters thought, like, what if she starts to badmouth dad? Because you have to understand, she knows. Well, not really even knows a completely different person than me and my sisters know right to are our dad to us like he is like our king. Like he does so much for us. Like, right? If anyone that knows us personally knows us, that my dad will drop anything. Like if we need help or we need something fix or he's there like immediately he's there right now. Yeah, he's literally in my house right now because I told him I had a leak or something somewhere. And he's you know what I mean? Like, he he right, is the complete opposite of what she knows. And he's always been like that, you know, like to my dad, like, his three girls are like his world, right. You know, uh, and so for for her not to know. That part of my dad is insane to me like he does. She doesn't know what an incredible father he actually is. Wow. And so I we thought, like, what if she starts to badmouth dad? And so there's just a lot of questions that we had that we didn't know how we were gonna answer them if that did happen. Yeah. You almost have, like, no expectations, right? Because you've never met her either. Yeah. So you don't know her whole, you know, personality or personality or attitude to talk to someone. Right. On Facebook or through text message. But their personality doesn't show until you meet that there. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys get there and then talk about, like, that day that you guys met her. So we got into Seattle Wednesday night, and then she was like, oh, cuz I had sent her our flight information. So she knew she we were getting in Wednesday night and she was like, welcome. You know, like I was, you know, like we'll see each other tomorrow. And yeah. So on Thursday morning we woke up, we started getting ready. I told her, hey, we're getting ready, you know, as soon as we're done and I'm on my way, I'll let you know. And so we finished getting ready. Went on our way. And. Are you guys nervous? Oh. Incredibly incredible. Like when I was starting to get closer and closer, I could feel my hands starting to shake, like, you know, there was just a lot of emotion. And then Cindy is sitting in the back and she's like, turn around, turn around. No, turn around. And I mean, it's gotta be you gotta put yourself like, I'm putting myself in that position and it's gotta be like, oh my goodness, right? Like, yeah, it's gotta be nerve wracking. So then Kim is like, we can't do that. Can you imagine if we tell her we're on our way and then we never show up? You know. No. That would. That's horrible. Like, we you wouldn't even. We wouldn't even do that to the person we dislike. You know, like. Right. It's just we can't do that. And she's like, okay, but I need some time. Can you just, like, stop? And I'm like, no, like, we're just gonna gung ho at it, like there's no stopping. And so as, as we're getting into her neighborhood and, um, you know, I'm getting towards. She lived at the end of a cul de sac. And then as I'm getting there, I start to park on the driveway and I think, oh, maybe I shouldn't park in the driveway because. So, you know, some people just don't like if you park in there, right? Right. Plus you don't want to block or. Yeah, somebody whether they're coming or going. Exactly. So I was like, oh maybe I shouldn't park, but I my the car was like already on the driveway. But I had stopped because I wasn't sure, like I was thinking about it at the time. And she actually walks out and she goes, no, come in like, you know, it's okay. Like park on the drive on the driveway. Right. Which led me to believe she was waiting for us. You know, like, looking out the window. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. And, uh, so then I park on the driveway, I get out, I give her a huge hug because, again, I'm the one that has known her and not really my sister, but my sisters. Give her a hug, too. And we're like, it's so nice to finally meet you. So it's it was so nice. Even though I knew what her face was like, it's nice to put a face to the name, right? And actually hear her voice and see. Yeah, and see the person in the physical. Yeah. Presence. Exactly. So then, um, we walk inside her home and I noticed she has a lot of yellow, which, if anyone knows me. Wow. I'm a my favorite color is yellow. And she actually has pillows that I own as well, which is the same pillows that we have, yellow pillows that I have that I use for when I have girls that, you know, I put out those yellow pillows, right? I have yellow pillows. And she has the exact same yellow. Oh. Was she when you first? Uh. Super sweet. Incredibly sweet. I have nothing bad to say. She was incredibly sweet. She treated us like she had known us forever, and I, I, I don't really have any I. She was so sweet. What was so great, too, is that she could carry a conversation much like my father. Which is so funny because my dad, if you sit him down like you don't even have to talk the man. We'll talk, talk, talk to your ears, and you just have to listen. That's all my dad ever wants. And so when we. That was one thing that was our concern too, was like, what if there's awkward silences? Like, we have nothing to talk about. But we did not run into that problem because the woman could talk. Imagine a room full of four sisters and nobody's talking. I know. So everything was in Spanish, which. I don't know if she doesn't speak English. I know she understands it because there was times where me and my sisters, just like your dad, would say something. Yeah. So. Exactly like my dad. My dad understands it. Maybe can't really carry a whole English conversation with you, but there's. He understands it, right? And so then there was times where me and my sisters would joke, like when we were having lunch together, but I was saying it in English. But she would laugh because she understood, but she just can't really speak English. So it was hard. It was better that she was like that because my sisters don't speak the greatest of Spanish. My sisters understand it, but can't really carry a conversation with you and where I. I could hear you. I think Cindy Cindy was trying her best, but there was a pink area conversation as well. I don't know if she was super nervous, but it was really hard for her like that. Yeah, I mean, I could see that. I could see maybe. Maybe not. Um, having happened to find the right words to say at for that moment, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was drawing a lot of blanks. Right. Like it was. Her mind was going blank. A lot like she didn't know the word she was looking for. And so. And Kim, for sure. Like, she can't carry a conversation. She understands it, but she understands it. So it was great that, um, she was able to carry the conversation. She did cry a couple times because she was talking about her cancer and how hard it was on her, and how she kept thinking that she was going to leave her daughter at the time, which was probably like 910. Um, without a mom. Mhm. And that was really hard for her. Um, and how it was hard for her to lose her hair. And so that story in itself, like made her cry a lot. Yeah. And it's funny because Cindy was sitting next to her and Cindy wouldn't hug her. And I kept. And I was the one sitting furthest from her. So then I just kept looking and. And Cindy would, like, look at her, and she's crying and I'm all thinking, the woman needs a hug. You know. But Cindy, would it move and Kim would it move? And I finally just stood up and walked over to her and like, gave her a hug. And then then came Kim and gave her a hug and then said, these kind of like patting her. I mean, everybody reacts to different things. Yeah, I know, but it's funny because Cindy's actually a very emotional person. Yeah. So the first person I would think of getting up would be her. Yeah. But then, you know, like, I know we talked to her about this. Yeah. She's like, I don't know. What if she doesn't like her thing is yeah I don't know her. You know, like I don't know I mean like, I, I mean, I guarantee you that if, if and it's everybody takes things differently. Right. And and for you it's like okay man I'm going to go give her a hug because you're more of that our personality. But I guarantee you, if it would have been somebody that she had known for a long time, Cindy would have done it. You know, she just maybe didn't know how to. Yeah. React. But so then we'll give her the benefit of the doubt because it's a shocker. This whole thing right here is a shocker to meet a sister that you know as your blood and. But you've never met her, you know, your whole life. Yes. So the whole I'm still in or even hearing the story again for and I live there, right. I mean, and not that I was there, but I, I've lived everything that's happened, you know, and the, the contact and all this stuff, but the, the when you guys told me you guys were going to go see her, I was like, oh, you know, I was like, man, like that to me is remarkable to me. It's amazing, you know? But at the same time it's like, whoa, you know, because most people the reason why I say that is because, you know, there has been cases where, you know, you hear people saying, well, how many siblings do you have? Well, you know, we're four, but there's two more brothers and sisters that my dad had when he was in Mexico or whatever. Right. But we don't talk to them. We don't know them, we don't talk to them. And they say it like in a way that they don't even care to know those people. You know, they say it in a way. There's like, yeah, just my dad just dropped seeds and that was it. You know, if my dad didn't care to, you know. Care for them or look for them in the white. Or are we? You know, there are people that have that attitude. And so for for you and Kim and Cindy to be able to say, you know what? Okay, let's find her and, you know, have a relationship with her and sending her Christmas gifts and and your niece. Right. Um, and now being able to when she feels better, be able to go there. I mean, that that to me, it's man. That's that's something to admire. That's that's it's a shocker. Most people won't do it. But you guys, I think that's amazing. Yeah. It's still kind of hard to believe. Like surreal. It's very surreal because again, I know my dad a certain way and I can't imagine him ever abandoning a child. I mean, because, again, I don't know the story, but it's not like him. It's so not like him. Like at all. Should I go get him? He's downstairs. Yeah. And so then it's hard for me to see her not knowing that, like the fact that my dad abandoned the child is incredible to me. Like, I would never imagine that from my dad. Right? And so that and the fact that he never. So I kind of feel sometimes like is this for reals? Like, is she really my sister? Or is this like some crazy story that you think on, on, on him never wanting to seek and find out about her and have a relationship? Do you think your mom has anything to do with it? Um, possibly. Yeah. Again, I was super young, but if I know my mom the way my mom is, I assume she was just like, no, which is crazy because it's something that happened way before her. Yeah, it wasn't like it wasn't. I mean, they weren't together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if it was while they were together, I can see why she'd be like. But even like that, because it's not even the kids fault, you know? Exactly. Even if that was the case, you'd be like, well, I mean, the child has. I mean, the child could not imagine, like, if we would have met later in life and you had a child, I could never imagine me saying to you like. I'm sorry. If you want to be with me. There is no chance that those two. You know, that child is part of my life, you know? Yeah. That's just. I wonder if that was part of the issue. While your dad never really wanted to, you know, seek her because he just didn't. He wanted to avoid any conflict with your mom or something, you know? So then we actually were with her all day. We got to her place, like, at ten, around 1130. We went and had lunch at a restaurant she had picked, which was absolutely delicious. I would go back there. Um, after that we went and had a coffee. We went to a coffee shop, had a coffee together and what were the conversations? So I kept thinking at one point she would bring up that like maybe questions like, how is he? Like, does he talk or not? But she didn't ask. She only asked one question. And the question was, how did that feel when you told them that you, you know, like you were coming to visit me? And Kim immediately was like, well, he's not here, like he's in Arizona. Which doesn't really answer the question, because my dad was on a trip in Arizona with my hands. Yeah. Happens when you guys went to Seattle. Yeah. Your mom and dad. My mom and dad were taking a trip to the station in Arizona, in Sedona. And we took this vacation to Seattle. So Kim's response was, oh, he's on vacation in Sedona. Which doesn't answer the question. And, uh, she was like, oh, he's not in Vegas. Like Vegas. He's like, oh no, she's on vacation right now. And then she's like, okay. But it didn't answer her question, right. And I kind of felt like I should have answered the question like, oh, he was okay with it. Or he would. He actually likes that we're coming out here. But I mean it. But it's almost um, if if she didn't ask, it's almost a good thing that Kim answered that way, because what if and and I don't know if obviously you've talked to your dad about this and he's okay with you guys going and and obviously you told him that she's doing good and and he knows. Right, like what's going on. And because you guys feel you know him in. But imagine if you you would have answered and said oh man. He was he was okay. He was happy. Um, but wouldn't you? Isn't that something you would like to hear if it's true? Yes, but the the thing is that you don't know how she would react after that. See, the the whole issue, which I don't have a problem, I, I would love for your dad to meet her one day and for her to meet her real dad. Right. And this is coming from someone that grew up with three grandchildren. You don't know, right? This is coming from someone that you know. My dad passed away when I was two. So imagine I had zero choice, right? But imagine if I would have known that I do have, you know, a biological dad. And he has siblings, right? I mean, he has kids, right? Somewhere else. Um, but at the same time, you don't you don't know how that's going to be. Now, you know, granted, what happened with how he left her and never really went back for her or ask for her or anything like that. It's got to be awkward for your dad to, you know. Do you get my point? I mean, I'm sure it's awkward for my dad. I'm not saying no, but I just wish I would have answered her question. I mean, and I gave her, like, a roundabout answer. Yeah. It's just I mean, there's. But again, we were kind of expecting questions about my dad. There was none. Just that one. She talked a lot about herself, which is perfectly fine because, I mean, we were there to get to know her, right? Um, she came she talked about how she came to the States and how she first lived in Arizona, and then she moved to Washington, and how she met her husband in Washington. And then, um, she talked about her three kids and. She has an extreme attachment to her kids and how she loves that, that they live with her, and which is kind of funny because then we realized Kim is the same way. Kim has all her kids living with her. There's a lot of similarities, a lot of similarities there. And them, uh, but her. Yeah. So I mean, that was really we got to know her. So then after we were done with the coffee shop, we went back to her house. And then that's when her youngest daughter came home from school, and the oldest one had picked her up. So then we met the two children. Um, then we met the husband. Um, incredibly sweet man. You could tell he does whatever she asked. Like he was. They were talking about all these projects that she wants to do outside in the backyard, and he's like, no, I took like two weeks vacation, but it wasn't really a vacation because she had me everywhere, Like doing all these projects. So very sweet couple I really, really like. All I kept thinking about is like, I can't wait till me go meets them, right? And it's like a whole new family. Yeah. And then, um. Yeah. Because when she introduced us, she was like me. Wow. And so he she just said three more sister in laws that you now know. How was it? How was it afterwards after like for you and your sisters when you guys left? Right. You guys are driving back to Seattle. How what was that conversation like? Well, we were super happy that everything went well and that she was nice and everything, but obviously my sisters had a little more reservation because they didn't get to know her like I prior, like I did. Right? And so Cindy still like, oh, so in a sense they they met a complete stranger. Yeah. Met an Instagram friend. Yeah. That you've had. Yeah, yeah. And, uh, Cindy, you. Cindy and Kim were like, did we do something wrong? Like, do you think that this is gonna, like, open a Pandora's box somewhere and, uh, you know, like, we couldn't believe that she had such a great relationship with some of my aunts and uncles. Uh, because, again, we had never talked to them about it, and they've never talked to us about it. Uh, and then when we I started to think about it like, age wise, because since she's 51, my aunts are very similar in age. So my Aunt Martha, that I love so much, she's 55. So then I realized she was like four years old when she was born. And then the one that I might to marry, which is under my Tia Martha, I think she's like 52 or 53. So they were really close in age. And so I know she probably was. They grew up together, they grew up together, and that's why she's so close to them. Right. And, um, I later thought about that and then, um, but we were happy. Obviously, my sister Cindy was saying, how are we going to tell mom? And I told her, you're crazy because we're never telling mom this one down. She might listen to this. No, my mom would never. My mom doesn't know about this, so. But, you know, I even, like you said, right? Even if she was to know, um. I mean, it is what it is, right? I mean, it's on. It's something that you're not again. It's somebody that. Happens to be way prior to your mom. And I mean, I, I, I think it's awesome that you guys did that. And besides, we're three women in our 40s. I mean, my mom could only tell us so much now. Yeah. That's true. And so yeah. So we ended it ended up in a great note. I obviously I we do have future plans to like meet each other and then even I don't know we'll go. We're going day by day. That's awesome. So man I can't wait to go and get to meet her and get to meet her husband and or I guess, you know, the the the best thing for her to do would be to come to Vegas, you know, because, um, I would imagine that's nerve wracking. There is a lot more of us here. Yeah. I mean, even if her and her husband were to come. But I think that's awesome, babe. Congratulations on that. That's amazing. The fact that you were able to go meet a whole new sister you never knew. So. And now you guys all keep in contact with her, right? Yeah, well, not Kim so much because Kim doesn't read or write in Spanish, but my sister in Seattle. You feel happy? You feel accomplished by doing that? Yeah. My nerves are obviously a much better. I like that I was able to finally put a face to the name. Nice. Well, great job, my love. Thank you guys for listening. I don't know if there's one last thing you want to say, but we're pretty much out of time today. No. That's it. Great job on that. Thank you guys for listening. 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